Regarding Elements ( questioning my experience) (2024)

Apprentice said:

First off I wanted to mention that I like your profile pic.

Glad you do, it was bothering me to see an empty space there. In truth, I also see how many people here (and in the Italian Forum, which I occasionally check too) have got anime pictures of anime gifs as their signature. I didn't want to be 'too flashy' (animated gifs constantly rolling may be distracting while you read I guess) so I opted for an image that, although I don't know how much it can be taken seriously (this Zeus version is an art concept from a game called God of War III), was to me somehow more respectful to the power of the Gods.

And, small bracket here cuz it's worth mentioning [ok, now that I've been typing for a while, it's NOT so small! XD ], I HAVE been thinking of changing it into a specific anime picture, from the almost definition of 'anime', Dragonball. I've been reading some posts on how people noticed common cartoons, anime, manga and videogames to be carrying an insane amount of Spiritual Satanism messages, almost as if they were put there for the purpose of being discovered by 'unthinking' minds and lead them to something, closer to Satan. In Dragonball, there's probably the MOST messages I've ever seen anywhere else, but I only really noticed lately when it was pointed out to me: a character's name is Mr. Satan; a car displays the name Satan on the side along with '666'; the story is about finding 7 spheres (the chakras) in order to summon a dragon (the Kundalini); the characters 'ascend' to a superior state in which they have blonde hair (like many of our Gods, especially Satan); and basically all their skills are based on the use of their aura, often displayed as golden.
Until now I hadn't shown particular interest in this anime, to be perfectly honest, but it always had 'something' that fascinated me, I just didn't know in which way.
And just to add more proof that it's loaded with hints for a SS to pick up on, I got curious and downloaded one of the countless Dragonball videogames, just to see what vibe I got from it. And what do you know? The game won't start. There's like a clear set of barriers that range from anti-virus acting up, to incompatible files, to online updates I had to fix by disconnecting the internet when trying to start the game, to even a new form of 'anti-cheat' program just recently installed.

So basically, all kinds of sh*t devised expressively to stop one from even starting this game (I bet brainless multiplayer loving couch potatos didn't have a problem getting this to start). In the end I managed to fix all the problems, and I had a great view of an anime story that NOW looks to me like 'Godhood accomplished characters fighting alien jew monsters'. Took me "only" like 25 years to see it.

(And just to add more references for me to think about, I recently got this insane desire to go back to my blonde hair lol.. now I can sense a theme at least.)

Some things take time to sink in and even then there's the possibility that you co*ck it all up so to speak.

Yeah, and I'm not planning to co*ck it all up now. Especially in the face of all that's happening, either in the world and to me specifically.

I've had no problems trying to be void for 5 minutes. Even set a timer on my phone. Just don't try too hard and you'll succeed. Be patient Regarding Elements ( questioning my experience) (1)

Re-reading these messages I think I identified my problem again, even with Void. Technically, it IS about overthinking things, something I've always done indeed, but I think I've been simply waiting for something more or expected bigger results, and this made me blind to what was really going on. This may very well be the factor that always decided whether or not I was going to get a vision. When I do get one, I know that I was doing things right, not thinking, not waiting for it to happen.. just observing it quietly. I'm guessing I'm less of a patient type than I thought, not even being able not to trying to anticipate something at all costs BEFORE I give it a chance to happen. And to be honest this feels like I need more Earth. I was going to try absorbing Fire again (right before I read you had) but I know I can take that. It's Earth that still baffles me. I'll see if wearing a few stones today will still give me some discomfort, and tomorrow I'll invoke it if all seems promising.

Now, let's move on to your Elemental training. Regarding Elements ( questioning my experience) (2)

4 everyday? Wow.. how long does it take for you to do 4? I'm always torn on how long I will do each vibration. To be honest, making it a bit faster makes the repetitive sound "hit" certain notes and I feel those vibrating in my chakras to a degree. Long vibrations work best with Runes and AUM mantras as I consider the sound somehow 'purer', designed to stimulate, so I try harder. Not sure if it's a mistake or not, haven't tried doing 9 repetitions (or a different number, like 13 for psychic awakening I guess) for mantras and Runes yet.

but I felt that I have to get rid of the training wheels, at least for this one time. So I decided to be dauntless and invoke Earth.

As I read that, I already started feeling discomfort from the stones (3 tiger's eye) I'm wearing. Wearing them almost on the left side of the body (left hand, necklace, left ear) but I'm feeling a 'pain' currently in construction in the right elbow. Won't lie, it's getting pretty unbearable. I read the word "dauntless" again, told you this, and now I'll keep on reading, ignoring it for now.

I fell down into trance, conjured a sphere of dense, bonecrushing Earth around me, observed it for a while and did four inhales just to be on the safe side. Came back from trance and meditated on my 6th chakra.

So you didn't get a headache in the slightest when doing that? I'm thinking by focusing on the 6th you might have unawarely dealt with the after effects, perhaps allowing the 6th to be unaffected by the energy surplus. OR maybe mine is just more blocked and it feels more painful when overloaded, even if I may feel nothing otherwise.
Mmm.... I'm thinking my 6th (and 7th) need something I haven't done yet. Or just something that I haven't really valued as much as I should have, yet.

You know how you hear a sort of high pitched white noise or static when in a silent room? I call them surges ....... I felt like I was rotating inside my body very fast for a second. This may be related to the working on the 6th but I can't be sure. Has never happened before.

I know that high pitched sound. Never really knew what it is but sometimes it has become so unnerving I just had to get up to do something that would distract me from it or make some noise to drown it out. I've also wondered, later in time, if it's something from the enemy, or something we can use to tune to some frequencies of the universe.. don't know really.
As for the rotation, it may simply be something you experienced from the 'being inhabitated' by Earth energy, strong as it is it probably had that effect on you (instead of the much less preferable 'sore muscles' as I did). It might have been your energy adapting to it/dealing with it, but I can't help thinking that you COULD try to use the rotating feeling as an excuse to try also astral projection. Between the countless 'new' methods, rotating inside of the body and slipping out of it in an all-in-one motion is one of the most famous in my opinion (methods, however, tend to be very subjective, so I wouldn't know if you'd favor it or not). I always thought of AP as an ideally great substitute to lacking astral senses, so great for meeting the Gods if you manage to get out of your body and ask for them to guide you. Just an idea, never thought "astral projection" would pop up when mentioning Earth meditation.

So in the evening I was even more dauntless and decided to invoke Fire. This decision was based on my gut feeling AND the materials I had read and re-read from JoS meditations section.

If this is what you FELT you should have done, then you have been absolutely right in doing it. Your Soul knows what it needs, if it suggests something and you listen to it, chances are you'll grow at a faster pace (in my opinion at least).

I then conjured a large sphere of Fire around me and observed it roar for a while.

This is something I should really do. Whenever I meditate with an Element I very rarely have just let myself get used to it for the first bit, observing it and enjoying it, before I start absorbing it. I'm guessing this links to my lack of skill in Void meditation, I'll need to fix this soon. Thanks for making me realize this.

I woke up approx. at 6 a.m. and could instantly sense that different feeling and the warm glow. I wasn't hot physically, it was the Fire energy glowing under my skin.

I'm guessing you couldn't notice the different in temperature while sleeping, so I'm glad you noticed it as soon as you woke up. In my book that means Fire is working really well with you. (I'm guessing also that our natal charts are probably not as truthful as they should.. they probably provide more of a guideline than actual 'rules' to follow in Elementalism. It's still up to us to figure things out in the end.)

I was pleasantly surprised that I could FEEL. I was definitely loaded. Nothing unpleasant at all but almost on the verge of being overwhelming, if you know what I mean. The day so far has been absolutely awesome. I don't recall myself feeling that strong joie de vivre EVER IN MY LIFE.

Said the guy who couldn't feel. Regarding Elements ( questioning my experience) (3) I'm really glad for you, man.

When my breathing became stronger because of physical efforts, I felt the fire roaring inside me again.

That MAY have something to do with unaware absorption. I experienced that before when working with Earth and doing heavier than normal tasks in the garden, the Earth would make me work harder and pump me full of strength to the point I wasn't getting any tired if I tried to. Elements ARE powerful.

In the evening I even sweated in the room I use for meditating (I always used to feel cold there before).


*Japanese accent* Well done, "Apprentice". Next, I want you to climb a snowy mountain, sit in the snow, and expand your Sushumna until the mountain is dry. :lol:

I feel that my patience really paid off. Damn! I could hug you right now in a brotherly way for encouraging me to try the Elements.


Regarding Elements ( questioning my experience) (4) I'm truly happy for you, Brother. No need to hug me, you'd have eventually chosen to try the Elements later in time. Hug HP Maxine for writing those webpages! Regarding Elements ( questioning my experience) (5)

This must have been the missing piece from my puzzle. I feel like dancing Regarding Elements ( questioning my experience) (6) The real definition of Joy of Satan. Regarding Elements ( questioning my experience) (7) Hot damn!

Spiritual Satanism is the greatest gift, isn't it? Regarding Elements ( questioning my experience) (8)

Also, during one of the rituals that evening, I started laughing uncontrollably. It felt like someone powerful but invisible was joyous and happy for me.

That may very well have to do with Fire. It makes you "active" and strong willed and positive. Laughing is a display of power and strong confidence, so good job there! Regarding Elements ( questioning my experience) (9)

On a more sober note, gotta be careful with them Elements. I can clearly see the pitfalls in it if a beginner is lacking self-control. You can easily fry yourself. Gotta have patience, go slowly and taper up if deemed necessary.

To this day, I feel the Elements are the most advanced form of magick, and we deal with forces so 'pure and raw' they couldn't get more extreme. Beginners should keep away until they have used basic and moderate meditations enough to either feel and become tolerant of stronger energy, or (our case I guess) tried it all up to that point, felt probably close to nothing, and decided that the Elements are the missing link and NEED to be explored throughly (but obviously not without care and attention).

I can't thank you enough, I appreciate your advice.
HAIL SATAN

You don't have to thank me, I have understood things too since we begun sharing experiences and tips, and even felt energy in a more obvious way. We're all here to work together and learn from each other, Brother. Regarding Elements ( questioning my experience) (10)

I feel we are finally getting on track. Let's keep it up.

HAIL FATHER SATAN AND THE POWERS OF HELL!!!!

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